I had to pick up an online order for someone at the grand MacyΒs department store right in the heart of the city. I figured I would dose, run my errand, and then walk around the city as I came up. I went to a nearby 7/11, got myself a drink, dosed outside the MacyΒs and began the timer. T0:00- Dose taken.
4-PrO-DMT
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- 2 corroborating sources
- 3 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 30 combo interactions documented
- classified Research-chemical
- dose data not in PW/TripSit (unverifiable)
- 2 corroborating sources
- 3 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 30 combo interactions documented
- classified Research-chemical
- dose data not in PW/TripSit (unverifiable)
Aliases: O-propionylpsilocin, Psilacetin propanoate ester analogue
Summary
A synthetic psilocin prodrug that converts to 4-HO-DMT in the body via esterase enzymes. User reports indicate classic psilocybin-like effects with potentially heavier body load (nausea, warmth) compared to 4-AcO-DMT. Mouse studies confirm 5-HT2A-mediated psychedelic effects.
Perspectives
“All that aside it is a warm and odd little psychedelic that delivers a fast and furious trip that dazzles the senses.”
Dose Information
Dose basis. Vendors commonly supply the fumarate salt. Potency by weight depends on salt stoichiometry. If 1:1 base:fumaric acid, freebase fraction β0.69; if 2:1, freebase fraction β0.82. Without a certificate of analysis (COA), assume 0.70β0.80 base-equivalent and titrate cautiously. Isomer Design lists freebase MW 260.33 g/mol; fumaric acid adds 116.07 g/mol per mole. If your sample label is ambiguous, weigh as salt and start on the low end. Stability is better as fumarate; store airtight, desiccated, dark, cold to reduce hydrolysis to psilocin. Fumarate salts are waterβsoluble and generally sting less than HCl salts, but intranasal use can still cause irritation. Because the comeβup is faster and steeper, use very small first lines or pre-dilute for volumetric dosing to avoid overshooting. Avoid if you have chronic nasal issues. (Dose figures and this note are from Drugs.Wiki.)
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 5-15mg | 15-30mg | 30-45mg | 45mg+ |
| Insufflated | 3-10mg | 10-20mg | 20-30mg | 30mg+ |
| Vaporized | 2-6mg | 6-12mg | 12-20mg | 20mg+ |
Sources
Oral
Dose ladder — Drugs.WikiInsufflated
Dose ladder — Drugs.WikiVaporized
Dose ladder — Drugs.WikiOnset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 10-30 min | 20-40 min | 1-2 hrs | 2-4 hrs | 3.5-7.17 hrs |
| Insufflated | 5-15 min | 10-20 min | 1-2 hrs | 1-2 hrs | 2.25-4.58 hrs |
| Vaporized | 36 sec | 2-5 min | 30-60 min | 30-90 min | 1.04-2.59 hrs |
Effect Profile
3 reportsScores (1–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Strong visuals with moderate headspace and body load
Tolerance
Tolerance Decay
Tolerance develops after one strong experience and decays over about a week, similar to psilocybin. Crossβtolerance is expected across serotonergic tryptamines due to shared 5βHT2A agonism.
Effects
Aggregated from 3 Erowid experience reports
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Effect glossary — · full glossary
Positive Effects 3
Adverse Effects 2
Combinations
Cross-Check 4-PrO-DMT with another substanceCommunity Trip Reports
Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, Bluelight, and Dose.wiki. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance. Tags summarise each author's own verdict — how reports are classified.
Erowid 1 report 1 neutral visit
Dose.wiki 2 reports 1 positive 1 neutral visit
A great mellow experience. Felt warm and pleasant, definitely will want to try again in a higher dose. One of the nicest half-trips Iβve ever had, actually, and I have had a lot, as they are my favorite way to take psychedelics.
There is chatter about 4-PrO-DMT being a prodrug to 4-HO-DMT, similar to what is conjectured about 4-AcO-DMT. I will say this one experience differed a fair bit from most of my experiences with 4-HO-DMT or 4-AcO-DMT. (Though to be fair it has been severalβ¦
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4-PrO-DMT Source: SubstanceSearch (substancesearch.com) Oral dose (mg): threshold 5 Β· light 5-15 Β· common 15-30 Β· strong 30-45 Β· heavy 45+ Insufflated dose (mg): threshold 3 Β· light 3-10 Β· common 10-20 Β· strong 20-30 Β· heavy 30+ Vaporized dose (mg): threshold 2 Β· light 2-6 Β· common 6-12 Β· strong 12-20 Β· heavy 20+ Oral duration: onset 10-30m Β· come-up 20-40m Β· peak 1-2h Β· offset 2-4h Β· total 3.5-7.17h Β· after-effects 1-3h Insufflated duration: onset 5-15m Β· come-up 10-20m Β· peak 1-2h Β· offset 1-2h Β· total 2.25-4.58h Β· after-effects 1-2h Vaporized duration: onset 36s Β· come-up 2-5m Β· peak 0.5-1h Β· offset 0.5-1.5h Β· total 1.04-2.59h Β· after-effects 1-2h Note: ranges are harm-reduction guidance, not a prescription. Start low, go slow, and test your substances.
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